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Same-sex Marriage Bill Vermont [Mar. 17th, 2009|04:15 pm]
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The Rev. Craig Bensen, president of the anti-same-sex marriage group Take it to the People, said proponents of the legislation have misled the public by trotting out clergy who support the bill while the vast majority of clergy oppose it and by citing sociological studies without regard for conflicting studies.

Bensen argued that the legislation poses more risks to society than benefits, eroding the connection between marriage and children.

Bensen urged lawmakers to schedule a non-binding public vote on the matter. Civil unions, created in response to a state Supreme Court ruling, were decided with the input of about 250 Vermonters, he said. This year, 180 members of the Legislature could decide on same-sex marriage, but such an important decision should be decided by a greater number of people. “I’m suggesting a good number to aim at might be, say, 300,000,” he said.




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Pilgrims Covenant Church Answers The Freedom From Religion Foundation [Mar. 13th, 2009|12:07 pm]
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Dear Friends,

As we shared in previous e-mails, the Freedom From Religion Foundation has posted small messages mocking God on the inside of a number of Madison, Wisconsin metro buses. For instance, one FFRF sign features this quote from Clarence Darrow: "I don't believe in God, because I don't believe in Mother Goose." Pilgrims Covenant Church has responded by renting space on the outside of eleven Madison Metro buses. Our message, which will be on the buses for one month and which began this week, is seen in the picture below.

The Wisconsin State Journal today ran a front page story on our bus campaign, complete with pictures of our message and FFRF's "Mother Goose" sign. What a contrast that presented! AP stories are also showing up in various media outlets. The WSJ website posted the front page story, with links but not the pictures of our sign. You can read that story below.

As might be expected, we are getting many extra visits to our web site already. This is wonderful since there is so much evangelical truth on that site. We are getting many encouraging responses. We are also beginning to hear the usual shrill squeals from the "enlightened" crowd. I have no doubt they will manage to offend a broad range of the population even as I hope they will stir up zeal for the Lord in many of His drowsy people.

Eventually, I will put together a good, comprehensive report on this bus campaign, including responses, which we are most confident the Lord will bless and use for His glory. My thanks again to all who are praying for this bus campaign and all who have helped make it possible.

Sincerely,

Ralph Ovadal


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http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/442593

THU., MAR 12, 2009
Metro Transit benefits financially from Christian-atheist bus ad battle
By DOUG ERICKSON, Wisconsin State Journal
A battle between Christians and atheists is turning out to be something of a financial boon for Metro Transit.

A Monroe church has launched a response this week to a campaign by the Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, with both groups advertising heavily on the city’s public buses.

The foundation’s six signs began appearing on the inside of 50 Metro Transit buses Feb. 23 and will be up for two months. Each sign bears a quotation from someone famous — Katharine Hepburn, Emily Dickinson, Mark Twain — questioning religion or stating why they are atheists.


• Pilgrims Covenant Church http://www.pccmonroe.org
• Freedom From Religion Foundation http://www.ffrf.org


A quote from Butterfly McQueen, the actress who played Prissy in the movie "Gone With the Wind," says, "As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion."

This week, Pilgrims Covenant Church in Monroe said it has purchased space on the outside of 11 Metro Transit buses for an ad that quotes Psalm 14:1: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." The ads, which cover a large part of one side of each bus, will rotate among bus routes over the next month.

The church’s pastor, the Rev. Ralph Ovadal, said the foundation has a right to air its opinion, "and we have the privilege to respond with truth from the word of God." He is known for high-profile protests against gay rights and for a long-running effort to close down a nude beach near Mazomanie.

Annie Laurie Gaylor, foundation co-president, said her group’s signs are thought-provoking while the church’s resort to name-calling. "I think they took the lesser path."

Responded Ovadal: "They provide statements mocking the Lord, we’re just passing along what the Lord has said."

Both parties said they appreciate the ability to debate their views in the marketplace.

"It stimulates the economy," Gaylor said "We feel it’s kind of patriotic to advertise on Metro Transit."

The foundation is spending $2,100 on its campaign, the church about $5,000. "Any ad sales help Metro," said spokesman Mick Rusch. Two people have complained about the foundation ads, he said.

Gaylor said the foundation is considering coming back with ads for the outsides of buses but hasn’t settled on a slogan. One finalist, she said, is "Sleep in on Sundays."
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Evangelist Brother Shawn Holes Online Radio Show [Jan. 18th, 2009|01:33 pm]
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Has God Abandoned America? [Dec. 8th, 2008|11:20 am]
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The Temptation to Anger and the Intimidation to Silence [Oct. 4th, 2008|10:19 am]
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Twin Dangers:

The Temptation to Anger and the Intimidation to Silence

John C. Rankin

On February 5, 2004, I faced an audience of nearly 500 people, some 300 of whom were avowed lesbians, on the topic, “Is Same-Sex Marriage Good for the Nation?” My guest was Amy Hunt, a leader with the Massachusetts Gay and Lesbian Political Caucus.

One student, a member of the Smith Christian Fellowship, sat among some twenty fellow students prior to the forum’s start, all avowed lesbians. They were saying how I was going to be chewed up and spit out, and they were ready for it. After all, I was a white heterosexual male, an evangelical pro-life minister – six strikes against me before I stood up. But as the forum progressed, they started to complain, “He’s being too gracious...”

During the forum itself, I presented the text of the Ministers Affirmation on Marriage, published in the Hartford Courant: “Yes to Man and Woman in Marriage: No to Same-Sex Marriage.” It shows how same-sex marriage, defined as a new “civil right,” threatens the historic definition of unalienable rights given by God; and as well, the Bible says no to homosexuality while ministering to those who struggle with such a temptation.

I also made three observations. First, I told the audience that I wanted them all to succeed in the gaining key qualities that come with being made in God’s image – peace, order, stability and hope; to live, to love, to laugh and to learn. The question is how we best achieve these qualities, whether on God’s terms, or on our own broken terms.

Second, I stated that I did not want one inch of greater liberty to speak what I believe, than the liberty I first commend to those who disagree with me. The Golden Rule in political context. And third, if any homosexual person there happened to be facing danger, and I were in position to intervene to protect his or her life, I would do so instinctively.

During the question and answer period, a lesbian, then a male homosexual activist, both said remarkably similar words – that my opposition to same-sex marriage was “doing violence” to them. I then asked, “Do you mean that I am doing violence to you because I disagree with you?” They had no reply, and the audience was aware of the reality at play – the celebration of a level playing field for all sides to be heard equally, an intrinsic reality of the Gospel.

Many homosexual persons are full of anger they do not know how to overcome, so often against the chosen absence of their biological fathers, and the harm that absence visited upon their lives. A sense of rejection and being threatened is terribly real. They have adopted an ersatz homosexual identity, my very presence affronts them regardless of how gracious I may be, and thus I become a surrogate against whom to express their pain. They needed to make me angry so as to justify their anger. When I did not become angry, they lost some wind in their sails.

After the forum, a lawyer approached and introduced himself to me. He had worked for the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court in its Goodridge decision which legalized same-sex marriage. He asked if I had read the decision and I said yes. He then called me a liar several times. So I then started quoting it extensively on the spot, and he changed the subject. In fact, Goodridge exalts same-sex marriage to the threshold of an unalienable right, and a huge conflict portends to threaten religious liberty as a result.

He wanted to intimate me into silence. After all, who was I as a minister to address legal matters? He needed to prove me out of my league and unqualified. This attempt grew comical yet tragic. He emailed me several times afterward, having looked at my website. He was concerned with a “disturbing pattern” of me going from campus to campus “stirring up ideological antagonism toward the indigenous gay students...” and what I am doing is “very, very hateful and arrogant” and “meddlesome.” He recommended that I change my occupation, diagnosed my emotional insecurity of “clinging desperately” to the Bible, and finally my need to go on a 30-day (pagan) “Insight Meditation” retreat, where I would learn to “SHUT UP AND LISTEN for a change...”

Imagine that. A biblical opinion on same-sex marriage is so rarely heard on pagan and secular campuses, and there I was at Smith College, the most pro-lesbian college in the nation, in Northampton, Massachusetts with its reputation for the heaviest concentration of serious witchcraft. No matter my articulation of the image of God, freedom of speech and willingness to risk my life for a homosexual person – I was being told to shut up.

These twin dangers of temptation to anger or intimidation to silence face believers continually. If we are self-righteous, have axes to grind, and are able to be drawn into anger, we misrepresent the Gospel. If we do not speak the truth, and are intimidated into silence, we fail to represent the Gospel. To speak the truth in love is the goal. Here I grasped anew the language of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount concerning the “narrow road” of discipleship – or perhaps more like a balance beam, which if we do not walk carefully, by the grace of God and wisdom of the Holy Spirit, we can fall to either side.

When we are free of anger and intimidation, when we can create a level playing field for all sides to be heard equally, when we accept the hardest questions of our skeptics with grace, when our goal is to see reconciled relationships more than merely winning a debate, the Gospel is advanced. Anger silences itself, pensiveness can happen, and the goodness of the Good News can be perceived as we serve the work of the Holy Spirit.

Epilogue: When the lawyer was speaking with me, a young woman interrupted him, graciously and with great poise. She said to me, “Thank you for coming. I am struggling. Can we talk sometime?” She had been an atheist, came to Christ within two weeks time, began to deal with some deep pain in her life, and then to grow wonderfully in the Lord. At the end of the year, I received a note from the leader of the Smith Christian Fellowship, which read in part, “We have been experiencing continued blessings from the forum, and I know that it was the first step in a major transformation Christ is working on this campus.” I was told by others that the fellowship grew significantly in numbers after the forum, and that many avowed lesbians thanked members of the fellowship for sponsoring the forum, since both sides were heard equally, intelligently and graciously. The power of the level playing field.

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Save The Planet? How About Saving The Republic? [Jul. 30th, 2008|10:54 am]
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Yesterday, the Politico quoted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as saying, "I'm trying to save the planet; I'm trying to save the planet." She was responding, of course, to pressure that she and her fellow Democrats are experiencing to suspend a congressional ban on offshore oil drilling in the face of skyrocketing energy prices. It would be really wonderful, however, if the liberal congresswoman could get as energized about saving our once great republic.

Herein lies another problem: the vast majority of our politicos (from both major parties) do not even seem to know what kind of country the United States was designed to be. Virtually every reference made to the United States by our civil magistrates is that we are a "democracy." That's odd; someone should have told our Founding Fathers, because they emphatically rejected the concept of creating a "democracy" in favor of creating a constitutional republic.

Has anyone quoted the Pledge of Allegiance lately? Does it say, "And to the democracy for which it stands"? Or does it say, "And to the republic for which it stands"? Of course it says "republic."

At the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention, a passerby asked Benjamin Franklin, "Well, Doctor, what have we got--a republic or monarchy?" Franklin replied, "A republic--if you can keep it."

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is the sixty-four million dollar question: Can we keep our republic? Can we keep our constitutional form of government? Can we keep our constitutionally protected liberties?

In Federalist No. 10, James Madison ("The Father of the U.S. Constitution") said, "[D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

The fear of what happens to freedom and liberty under democratic rule is what prompted Madison and the rest of America's founders to labor so hard to create what they did: a constitutional republic.

Under God, it is allegiance to the Constitution that has preserved our liberties, our peace and happiness, our security, and our very way of life. Furthermore, it is the repudiation and rejection of constitutional government that is responsible for the manner in which these very same blessings are currently being lost.

Someone needs to remind Rep. Pelosi that it is not her duty (nor does she have the power) to "save the planet." And by the same token, someone needs to remind Senators Barack Obama and John McCain that they are not campaigning to be President of the World, but President of the United States.

What every elected officeholder is expected and required to do is very simple: they are required to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Period. End of story.

Our public servants are not charged with saving the snail darter or the Spotted Owl, or saving the profits of the international bankers, or saving Wall Street in general, or saving the perks of corporate lobbyists, or saving Freddie and Fannie, or saving the peoples of the world from all the bogeymen, or even saving humankind or the planet itself. What our public servants are charged with, however, is preserving (saving) our constitutional republic.

Of course, the problem is, the people who are charged with the preservation of our republic are the ones who are the most responsible for its destruction. The American people have far more to fear from Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and John McCain than they do from any foreign adversary, because our leaders have proven that they have absolutely no fidelity to the principles of constitutional government. They have no compunction about eviscerating the protection of our freedoms, or about abolishing the vanguard of our liberties. They are Machiavellian, making King George of old look like a mere amateur.

No, I take that back. It is not our civil magistrates who are most responsible for the destruction of our republican form of government: it is "We the people."

At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the people to govern themselves. We must be willing to hold our civil magistrates accountable to the contract they made with us, which is to uphold constitutional government. It is our duty to "throw off" any system of government that does not secure our liberties and protect our constitution. And this we have not done.

Christian pastors and ministers have failed us. The "Religious Right" has failed us. College professors have failed us. High School teachers have failed us. Newspaper editors and publishers have failed us. TV news anchors and reporters have failed us. Parents have failed. Friends have failed. The two major political parties have failed. As a whole, no one is talking about, or even thinking about, the loss of constitutional government, national independence, and sovereignty. Few seem even conscious that this is taking place.

Worrying about which major party wins a general election is like worrying about whether Coke or Pepsi sold more soft drinks last month. Pick your poison. One is just as bad as the other. Neither has any fidelity to the Constitution or to the principles of liberty, which it represents. Both John McCain and Barack Obama are enemies to constitutional government. Both are in the process of sacrificing our national sovereignty to global entities. Both men lied when they took an oath to preserve and protect the Constitution. So, why should we care which impostor wins the election?

It is up to the American people to enforce constitutional government. From a Christian perspective, it is "We the people" who are the "powers that be" in Romans chapter 13. Under our form of government, the source of authority and the source of legitimacy reside with "We the people." We are not the slaves of any king or despot. Our elected leaders are public servants, not private masters. In a nutshell, they work for us. They are contracted to preserve our liberties and our way of life. When they fail, they must answer to us.

So, when will the American people pick themselves up by the bootstraps and start acting like free citizens and stop groveling before these imbecilic political parties? When will we set this political house in order?

Of course, all of this demands that each of us understands constitutional government and the principles upon which liberty rests. It also demands that each of us be prepared to do whatever is our personal duty to preserve this republic.

Patriotism is more than waving a flag on July 4th, or singing The National Anthem at a ball game, or wearing a flag lapel pin on Flag Day. For an American, real patriotism means that we are willing to preserve and protect our constitutional republic. Remember, Franklin's answer: "A republic--if you can keep it."

Nancy Pelosi can talk about saving the planet all she wants to: her duty, however, is to preserve, protect, and defend the U.S. Constitution. And that is also the job of every single American citizen. Unfortunately, most of us are no better at doing our job than Pelosi is at doing hers.


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Huge ‘Rally for Sally’ as 1,000-1,500 Turn Out for Rep. Kern at OK Statehouse [Apr. 4th, 2008|12:47 pm]
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Below is the text of Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern’s speech (emphasis added):

Sally Kern Speech, Oklahoma Statehouse, April 2, 2008

I want to thank everyone for coming here today. This rally, Freedom of Speech Rally for Sally, is really about freedom of speech for all who want to stand for the truth of God’s Word. This is not about me. It’s about the Church having the right to speak out for the redeeming love of Jesus Christ who died to set us all free from sin. The Lord gave me a verse I’ve been claiming. Philippines 1:12: “I want you to know that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel.”

I’ve gotten lots of e-mail lately. Some good, some not so good. I’ve been called lots of names. I can’t repeat most of those names. Some of the good names have been courageous, brave, and hero. I want you to know I have more trouble relating to the good names than the bad. I know I’m a sinner, but I’m not courageous, brave, or a hero. I’m just an earthen vessel, an old clay pot. II Corinthians 4: 7 says, “We have this treasure in earthen vessels, clay jars to show that this surpassing power is from God.” The last few weeks have been tough but God’s grace has been sufficient. So if I seem courageous, brave, or a hero, it’s not me but God’s grace.

When I gave that now infamous speech, I was not putting down any individual. I believe each and every person is precious in God’s sight. He loves us all. He loves us all equally and He loves us regardless of our sin. Yet, God is not just a God of love but also a Holy and Righteous God who sent His Son to die for our sin so we could have forgiveness and experience life abundantly. To have His forgiveness we must first acknowledge our sin. We can’t excuse it or justify it.

Let me tell you why I will not, why I cannot, apologize for my comments. First, I believe God’s Word. When God calls something a sin, then it is a sin. God never changes and neither does His Word. My opinion doesn’t matter. His Word is all that matters.

Second, this nation was founded on Christian principles. We all know Patrick Henry’s famous words “Give me liberty or give me death.” He also said “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” Some say we should separate church and state but Noah Webster said when writing to school children “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God.”

Third, when I was running for office, I told the people I was running as a Christian candidate because I believed we were in a cultural war for the existence of our Judeo-Christian values. This situation is evidence that the cultural war is real. And it gives me the opportunity to keep my promise to those who voted me into office.

Psalms 11:3 says “When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?” We can remember that the foundation of society is the home as established by God—one man and one woman. So stand up for it. We can remember that the foundation of this nation was Christianity. Teach it to our children. We can remember that the foundation of the Church is God’s Word. Believe it and practice it daily. We can remember that the foundation of salvation is Christ dying for a world lost in bondage to sin. Proclaim the Truth that will set people free.

When you go home today, go turn on all the lights in your bedroom. Get into the closet and close the door. Stand in the dark a few seconds. Then open the closet door and notice what happens. The darkness in the closet doesn’t swoop our and overtake the light. No, the light spreads into the closet dispelling the darkness. Our world is dark with sin today, not because of the homosexuals, or the murderers, or the drug addicts. It’s dark because the Church has not let its light shine. What the righteous must do is pray II Chronicles 7:14: “If my people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

Thank God we still have Freedom of Speech in America. Let’s speak out while we still can. God bless you and God bless America.






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Man-Boy Love Association Member Stung By FBI [Dec. 16th, 2006|12:34 pm]
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Man-Boy Love Association Member Stung By FBI

By Matt O'Connor, Chicago Tribune

Aug. 21--A flight attendant from Chicago, caught in an undercover FBI probe that infiltrated a national pedophile organization, was recently sentenced to prison for traveling to California to engage in sex with a minor.

David C. Mayer, 51, was about to board a boat to Mexico when he was arrested last year. He and six others snared in the FBI investigation thought they were traveling to a bed-and-breakfast that provided boys for their sexual pleasure, authorities charged.

A federal judge in San Diego sentenced Mayer to 37 months in prison on Aug. 11.

Mayer had pleaded guilty to the sex offense on the condition he be allowed to appeal the judge's refusal to dismiss the charge on 1st Amendment grounds.

The defense alleged the government had over-reached after an undercover FBI agent infiltrated the North American Man/Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, secretly tape-recording discussions at annual conventions in 2003 and 2004.

Within half an hour of meeting the FBI agent at the 2004 convention, Mayer expressed frustration at the group's political agenda, authorities said. The organization, formed in 1978, is dedicated to eliminating age-of-consent laws.

Mayer wanted advice on traveling abroad to have sex with young boys, according to court records.

"I don't know who's lying to who or if ... they're lying to themselves and saying, 'This is all political. This is all to change society,'" Mayer said of conference organizers in the tape-recorded conversation. "[Expletive], it's like, bring on the boys."

A spokeswoman for American Airlines confirmed that Mayer, formerly of the 1200 block of North Sandburg Terrace, had worked for the airline for almost 20 years until his arrest last year.

Mayer was also a licensed clinical social worker until late 2003, according to state regulatory authorities, but he had never been the subject of disciplinary action.

In a telephone interview last week, Robert Hamer, the undercover FBI agent, said he joined NAMBLA in 2001 for a $35 fee while investigating sex tourism in Thailand.

Over the next two years, Hamer won the trust of the group's leaders, writing Christmas cards to incarcerated members and authoring stories for a NAMBLA publication on chemical castration and the unfairness of laws allowing charges against sex offenders decades after alleged crimes.

Hamer, who retired from the FBI in January, said this was his most personally challenging undercover assignment in a 26-year career. In more than 20 undercover roles, he played everything from a contract killer for the mob to an international arms dealer.

But posing as a pedophile "thoroughly disgusted me," he said. "I had taken on an alter ego antithetical to everything I believed to be right and moral."

In fall 2003, Hamer attended the invitation-only NAMBLA convention in New York City, secretly tape-recording his conversations but being careful not to ask too many questions for fear of drawing suspicion.

At an early session, the leader asked the 30 men in attendance to identify themselves and explain why they had come to the convention.

When his turn came, Hamer feigned to be overcome by emotion, breaking down and crying as he recounted his fears of being arrested when the group encountered police officers while walking in Manhattan.

The ploy won him sympathy, said Hamer, who, as he had in numerous other undercover roles, pretended to be disabled, using a crutch and walking with a limp.

Hamer said the disability made it appear less likely that he was an undercover agent and provided an excuse for his frequent absences.

He said he would tell the group he needed to take medication when in fact he was replacing cassettes in his tape recorder.

A year later, at the Miami convention, Hamer said he became more aggressive in his conversations in an effort to draw out discussions of criminal activities.

Two days after the convention, Mayer e-mailed Hamer about Web sites for hotels in Costa Rica and elsewhere that catered to homosexuals, according to court records.

By the next month, Hamer promoted the trip to the Mexican bed-and-breakfast, a ruse set up by the FBI.

"The whole thing sounds fabulous, almost too good to be true," authorities said Mayer replied in an e-mail.

Shortly after Christmas, Hamer received Mayer's $620 payment for the trip.

In February 2005, a day after Mayer and two co-defendants had flown to San Diego, they were arrested as they were about to board a boat they believed to be headed for trysts with boys in Mexico. Four others were arrested in Los Angeles.

"These are ministers, special-education teachers, a dentist, professional people," Hamer said of those arrested. "They're your next-door neighbor, your kid's coach."

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The Passion of Christ [Jan. 5th, 2005|09:40 am]
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Iranian Filmmaker, Nader Talebzadeh, Analyzes Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

Iranian filmmaker, Nader Talebzadeh, appeared on Iranian channel Jaam-E Jam 3 and analyzed Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. Following are excerpts:

In every documentary film about Jesus, such as CNN's Who was Jesus, and ABC's Jesus and Paul, there's no reference to the fact that Jesus is one of Islam's great prophets. In this sort of research, if you want to tell who Jesus is, if you claim that you are liberal, democratic, scholarly and balanced, why don't you mention, if only for two seconds, that he was one of Islam's great prophets?

There is no reference to this. Meaning, total boycott. Do not forget that Mel Gibson made the film The Patriot. This film is about the US army. Mel Gibson is very patriotic and nationalistic… Meaning, 100% Anglo-Saxon.

I believe that there's a strong point in this film… For instance, the conflict between the Jewish scholars and Jesus, and the film portrays this faithfully. Because most of the plot is based on an event which never happened, so what is portrayed throughout the plot is wrong, meaning, it doesn't serve the truth.

This is strong cinematic work. Gibson's work is of Hollywood standards. Its violence is almost American. After all, the Americans are very strong on violence. Actually, it is their profession. When we speak of violence, America has a strong record. For the past 100 years, they've known how to strike


Comment by miketel What most people don't know, mostly because they don't really care, is that in Islam Jesus did not die on the cross but an imposter took his place....this is official Islamis doctrine.
They still revere Jesus as a great prophet though....go figure!
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(no subject) [Jan. 2nd, 2005|09:45 pm]
O’Reilly TV show to feature OutFest official, protester

By Timothy Cwiek
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© 2004-2005 Philadelphia Gay News

The cable television show “The O’Reilly Factor,” with host Bill O’Reilly, plans to feature an eight-minute segment about the arrests of 11 Christian protesters at last October’s OutFest street festival.

The segment will air about 8:30 p.m. Jan. 3 on the Fox News Channel, said Don Felber, a producer of “The O’Reilly Factor.”
“Barring any late-breaking major-news stories, the segment will be aired at that time,” Felber told PGN.

Chuck F. Volz, senior adviser to Philly Pride Presents, which stages OutFest, and Brian Fahling, an attorney for the protesters, will appear on the broadcast, Felber said.

The segment will be taped about two hours before it’s aired, Felber added.

Fahling couldn’t be reached for comment.

Volz had mixed feelings about the broadcast.

“I’m somewhat apprehensive about being on national television,” Volz told PGN. “But when you speak the truth, you have nothing to worry about ... You can’t get ruffled, upset or shrill. You’ve got to be as matter-of-fact as possible.”

The show might help sway conservative viewers, he added.

“In a sense, it will be preaching to their [Christians’] choir,” Volz continued. “The Fox News Channel tends to have a conservative viewership. I’m hoping — if there’s any kind of groundswell of support for the protesters, we might nip it in the bid. They [protesters] weren’t at OutFest to preach the Gospel. They were inciting a riot.”

The protesters are members of Repent America, a Philadelphia-based Christian group that opposes homosexuality. They were charged with a variety of felonies and misdemeanors, including hate-crime charges, stemming from their attendance at OutFest, including ethnic intimidation, conspiracy, riot, and disorderly conduct.

Earlier this month, Municipal Court Judge William Meehan Jr. dismissed charges against six of the protesters. But four of the protesters, including Repent America director Michael Marcavage, were held for trial.

A trial date hasn’t been scheduled for the four men.

Meehan also ordered the four men held for trial to stay at least 100 feet away from permitted gay events in Philadelphia, until their criminal charges are resolved. They’ve vowed to appeal Meehan’s stay-away order in Common Pleas Court.

Lauren Murch, a juvenile who was arrested at OutFest, hasn’t had a preliminary hearing yet. Her charges remain pending, according to court records.

Marcavage hopes the show will help bolster national support for the protesters.

“I think our attorney, Brian Fahling, will make our position very clear to the viewers of ‘The O’Reilly Factor,’ “ Marcavage told PGN. “And that is: We [protesters] did absolutely nothing wrong at OutFest.”
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